FORUM Forums Products CLSE-Yoke CLS-E MKII or CLS-E NG? Reply To: CLS-E MKII or CLS-E NG?

Diego Bürgin

Hi ihatesignature and moriarty

Diego from development here.

EDIT:CLSE-MKII has more travel in Elevator and has a display on the yoke.

For everything else the yokes are the same except for the max force. I would say that the CLSE-NG is a bit smoother, but has significantly lesser force.

For the settings that need to be done, you can download a profile made by other users.
But if you want to do your own adjustments, this is not plug and play, expect many hours of tuning to get a nice feel.

The features that work well:
– Realistic trimming
– Movement when using Autopilot
– Stickshaker
– Increasing/Decreasing forces when changing airspeed or deflection of the yoke.
Basically you can set an increasing resistance, the further you push the yoke from it’s trimmed center point.
And Airspeed further increases that force.

If you fly using X-Plane you get the best trimming and AP behavior. The other sims have some trade off.
Specifically when disengaging the AP the plane will not keep it’s attitude.

What works somewhat:
– The wind turbulences really isn’t the best feature, if expect to feel each gust, you’ll be disappointed.
We just don’t get enough data from the sim to program it any better, so it will feel somewhat random.
Same for the ground vibrations.

Due to the way we communicate with X-Plane, the update rate between yoke and sim is roughly half the FPS.
So you want to have at least 30 fps in X-Plane or more.

Regarding the movement speed.
It doesn’t move very fast. We needed to factor in some damping for stability.

That’s all the for’s and against’s I can think of.

Best Regards


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