Reply To: CLS2Sim doesn't fully recognize the A2A Comanche in MSFS

[aurel42]

In case you don’t follow the discussion on the A2A forum, Scott Gentile posted this:

“It turns out we need to take another path for Force Feedback to work, through Asobo likely. We haven’t yet made this request as we’re deep into other things but we will and keep in mind they are busy too so it will likely take a while before, if, anything is done. We do want FF to work. It is important to us so we won’t be completely dropping this ball.”

As I wrote on the A2A forum, there are more people with VR headsets than people with force-feedback hardware. VR hasn’t seen any TLC by Asobo since SU5, when MSFS arrived on the Xbox. I find it hard to believe that they would divert developer resources to FF. Especially when there is no FF device officially supported by the sim (afaik). Especially at this point in time, when the deadline for MSFS2024 is inching closer day by day.

I think I understand Scott’s approach. He probably wants FF to feel right, and to get that, the sim has to supply some raw data like forces acting on control surfaces and what have you.

On the other hand, at this point, I would be happy if I could just use the Comanche incl. AP with CLS2Sim’s usual speed and rpm based approximations of forces. (Or the PC-12, or the DA-62 and 42, or the cool legacy AP in the Wilga.)

The number of MSFS planes that don’t work “out of the box” with Brunner hardware appears to be growing.

I believe, we either need Brunner to step up and make CLS2Sim more flexible, maybe by letting us configure which variables to read from and write to the sim, or we need some (open source) tool that replaces CLS2Sim or puts itself between CLS2Sim and MSFS.

tbh, I don’t have much hope. We are few: not many people use Brunner hardware, only a subset use MSFS, even fewer fly the Comanche (or the other aircraft I listed), and only some of them are not happy with workarounds like “use Vjoy and never touch the AP”. So the Comanche sits in my hangar as a reminder never to buy an aircraft unless other Brunner users confirm that it works as intended with my yoke.