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Hello Stefan,
thank you for the commitment, it is really good to know that your are planning to provide support for that amazing simulator when will be the right moment.

Best,
Alessandro

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Hi webmaximus,
I’ve tried CLS2Sim 4.23.3 with Windows 1903/vJoy version 2.1.9.1 and in X-Plane I’m not able to use the yoke. The simulator recognizes vJoy correctly (I can see it in the joystick settings) but the yoke is not moving inside the plane.

Is anyone able to use it normally?

Best,
Alex

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Actually, I noticed right now that you released a new CLS2SIM version. I’ll check if it resolves the issue.

Alex

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Hello Stefan,
In the last couple of weeks I’ve tried different settings, also following your suggestion but it did not change the situation. It seems that just having a 1kt of wind will change the “center” position of the yoke permanently. The only option to avoid this issue is setting no wind in the simulator.

As I said before, I noticed that if I open the profile window in CLS2Sim during the flight (clicking on “Profile manager”), the force on the yoke disappears; it’s like if doing that, the yoke is calibrated again to the right center position.

Maybe this details could help you investigating the issue. Also, this detail could be the indicator that the issue is not related with the configuration but instead with some kind of unexpected behaviour of the software.

Please let me know what you think.
I remain available to provide you any kind of debug log.

Thanks,
Alessandro

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Hello Team,
unfortunately I have not received any reply from you yet.

I’d like to know what you think about my questions or if you are working to find a solution.

Thank you in advance,
Alessandro

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Hi Stefan,
I’ve followed your suggestion but I got the same wrong behavior. My question is, why before the flight the yoke is centered and after landing a flight with wind the yoke has a force pushing it on the left (or right)? Why in flights without wind, after the landing the yoke is centered as expected?

Honestly, I do not think it is an expected behavior. If you have a specific profile to avoid this behavior I’ll be glad to try it.

Hoping to have a workaround from you.

Thanks for the support,
Alessandro

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Hello Diego,
are you still investigating on the reported issue? Any news?

Thanks,
Alessandro

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In the meantime I’ve taken similar screenshots pausing X-Plane during the flight, you can find them attached at this message.

The weird thing this time is that when I opened “Profile manager” the yoke automatically moved to the center. Before opening the CLS2Sim with X-Plane paused, the yoke was like the cockpit image I sent you yesterday but on the left.

Hoping that could be helpful,
Alessandro

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Hi Diego,
thank you very much for your support! The trick with the debug window is pretty cool actually 🙂

When the yoke is “un-calibrated” I do not need so much force to pull it to the center position. It has a bit of resistance but you can move it with a finger. When you leave it free, it returns back to the wrong position automatically.

I’ve attached the requested screenshot taken after landing. Please note that this time the yoke was full end to the left after the flight. Just as additional info, I attached the weather used during the flight, I remained below 2000ft.

Just to let you know, I noticed that soon after I open the profile window in CLS2Sim (clicking on “Profile manager”), the force on the yoke disappears. If you move the yoke, it remains in the position where you leave it, not returning back to the wrong position. However, it does not return to the center position either; It just remains where it is without opposing any force.

Please let me know if you need more info or screenshot. Glad to help fixing this issue.

Talk soon,
Alessandro

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Hi Diego,
thank you for your response.
Actually, the wind is not that strong to move the yoke until the roll axis end. It can be easily kept at the center holding the yoke strongly. I think that the yoke shaking is normal during wind condition, the real problem is that the yoke takes a wrong “center” position when the wind ends (eg., after the landing). The yoke looks like to set its center position to a wrong position permanently.

Actually I expect that the yoke acts like in a real plane, giving the wind feedback when needed but not trying to take a permanent wrong position because of that; I would not be happy decreasing or even disabling a great feature I’ve paid for.

Just to be clearer, I’m going to attach you a picture showing the yoke position after a flight with about 4kt of wind; the plane landed, moved to the park and turned off. You can see that the center position after the flight is extremely wrong. At the start of the flight it was centered. The presence of wind un-calibrated someway the yoke.

Maybe I didn’t get your answer but me, and I think other users experiencing this problem, expect a software fix for that.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks for your support,
Alessandro

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Not always because it seems to be strictly related with the wind component. I’ve just finished another test modifying the meteorological condition with a severe storm but with no wind at all. The result was that after landing the yoke was perfectly centered and the issues did not happen.

Same storm but with 7 kt of wind and after the flight the yoke was turned on the right (but still movable by hands applying a bit of force).

My idea is that when you compensate turbulence or crosswind forces during the flight trying to keep the yoke centered, CLS2SIM software (or something) un-calibrate or stores the center position wrongly. That was just a non-technical feeling about the issue.

I can’t wait to hear what the team think about it.

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